In this episode of The Quantum Space: Innovating Trust, Steve speaks with Todd Persen, CTO of Hydrolix, about what happens when digital systems no longer report to humans first, but to each other.

As machine-to-machine interactions scale, a more specific shift is underway: agentic traffic (automated systems acting with increasing autonomy)is beginning to surpass traditional human-driven activity online. Industry data, including the Imperva 2025 Bad Bot Report, points to a tipping point where automated activity now exceeds human traffic. This is not just a change in volume, but in behaviour, intent, and consequence.